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CHILDREN of HANS FRIEDRICH XV.6

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1627: the boys were still alive

1642: the boys were all dead

CHILDREN of CONRAD ERDMAN xV.9
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1642: Nov.21, Colochau, Saxony, "George Caspar" writes the Prince Elector; that his cousin, "Georg von der Droessel" of Colochau, Court Judge in Wittenberg, died on Dec. 2, 1642, soon after the death of his only son. His (Georges) portion of Colochau was inherited by him "George Caspar" and his cousin "Guenther", who is the son of his father, "Cuntz Erdman's" brother (who is also called) "Guenther." His cousin "Guenther" the younger, who after his residence with the dowager Princess of Anhalt in Cosswigk, was taken to Holstein, and now is in France; that he (George Caspar) and the late "George von der Droessel" were appointed  by the request of (Gunether's the younger) late mother to be his guardians; that he (George Caspar) petitions for the Letter of Fief from the late "Georg von der Droessel's" portion of the Colochau estate for himself and for his absent cousin "Gunther the younger" and asks for an appropriate (Muthzettle) until his cousin "Guenther the younger returns, a5.2.  >

1642: Dec. 8, Chancellery, Dresden, Saxony, "Entry:" "Georg Caspar von der Droessel" should come to Dresden with the pertinent papers. An "Indult" has been granted for 1 year. >

1643: Nov. 27, Herzberg, Saxony, "Georg Caspar" writes the Prince Elector that; although he had every intention of fulfilling his feudal responsibilities he was prevented from doing so for the following reasons; 1. The Swedish army from Moravia and Silesia returned to his region; 2. The King's (marckischen ? army) also marched through his area, thus making the highways unsafe; 3. that his cousin and ward "Guenther von der Droessel," until now in service at the Anhalt Court, has still not appeared; 4. That at the arrival of the King's (marckisssschen) army, in the flight to Herzberg, he fractured his thigh bone and is not able to ride; he petitions to be granted a 1/2 year "Indult," a5.2. >

1638: Sept. 12, "Georg Caspar" receives Letter of Fief for the  state, see XII.2, 1668, July 9 >

1646: Oct. 20, Colochau, Saxony, "Sybilla Barbara von der Droessel" widow, writes to the Prince Elector; that her husband "Georg Caspar von der Droessel" of Colochau died on the Feast of St. Martins, 1645, and left 2 minor sons and 1 minor daughter; that as yet the children do not have appointed guardians so she is petitioning that her sons "George Friedrick" and "Caspar Erdmann" be granted a 1 year "Indult" and (Muthzettel) regarding their father's fief estate in Schlieben and for that portion of the Colochau estate which after the death of "George von der Droessel" was inherited by "Georg           Caspar" (their father) and his cousin "Guenther" who was a minor and in the service of the dowager Princess of Anhalt at Cosswigk, then at the Court in Zerbst, and then fighting in the "Kurbrandenburgische" army and  who is still absent and for the "gesamte Hand" for the other fief  participants (Mitbelehnten), a15.2. >

1646, Dec. 10, Chancellery, Dresden, Saxony, Note attached to the above petition: Decision; "Sybilla Barbara" should provide the ages of the children and bring the pertinent documents, see a5.2. >

1651: Mar 11, Colchau, Saxony, "Barbara Sibylla v.d.Droessel" nee Heynin writes the Prince Elector of Saxony that her late husband "George Caspar von der Trysel" was the "Faendrich unter dem Pfortischen Regiment" died and left two minor sons, "George Friedrich and Caspar Erdman; that she was appointed their guardian; and petitions that that the sons are allowed to hold their fathers Fief until their majority.

A note attached to the document states; the widow is requested to name the Fief and the "gesamte Hand that "George Caspar held; give the ages of her sons; then, her requests will be granted, a5.12.

1658: Apr. 17, Colochau, Saxony, "Georg Caspar's" widow, "Barbara Sybilla" petitions the Prince Elector for a "Indult" for her 2 sons according to (her) requests dating July 1, 1657, a5.7. >

1662: Apr. 17, Colochau, Saxony, "Barbara Sybilla v. der Drossl" widow, writes to the Prince Elector, that her junker husband, Georg Caspar died on Nov. 14, 1645 leaving behind besides his estates in Schlieben, Colchau and Roessen two minor sons, "Georg Friedrick," 14 years, "Caspar Erdman," 12 1/2 years.  She requests "um Indult" ? until her sons reach the age of 21 years, a5.4.

SONS of GUNTHER xV.15

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1638: Mar. 17,  "Gunther" is a son of Anna Maria von Schoeermarck; he is living abroad in Oldenberg County, in the service of Princes of Anhalt, the dowager of Cosswigk; he does not have a guardian; and his stepmother requests an "Indult", see X.15, 1638, Mar. 17. >

1638: Apr. 4, (Dresden), Saxony, The Chancellory is to prepare a Letter of Fief for ("Gunther,") a5.2. >

1638: July 3, "Gunther's" stepmother petitions for a Letter of Fief for Colochau and the "gesamte Hand" in his uncles and cousins estates for him, see 1638, July 7. >

1642: Nov. 21, "Guenther is now in residence in France still in service of the dowager Princess of Anhalt, before this he was in Holstein.   His cousin "George Caspar" petitions the Prince Elector for a Letter of Fief for Colochau for "Guenther" and himself, see 1642, Nov.21, XI.21. >

1643: Nov. 27, "Guenther" is no longer in service at the Anhalt Court but still has not appeared at Colochau, see 1643, Nov. 27, X.21. >

1646: Oct. 20, "Guenther" as a minor was sent to serve the Dowager Princess at Cosswigk, then he served served at the Court at Zerbst, then he fought with the Kurbrandengburg army in the war, see 1646, Oct. 20, XII.21. >

1646: Oct. 21, "Guenther" who is still abroad, inherited with the late "George Caspar he Colochau estate, see 1646, Oct. 21, X.15.

1650: Jan. 15, Chancellery, Dresden, Saxony, "Guenther" reminds the Prince Elector that the decision dated Apr. 2, 1638, made for the petition regarding the Letter of Fief for 1/2 of the Colochau estate and for the "gesamte Hand" for the Fief of his late cousins "George and Cuntz Erdmann" signed by his mother Sybilla von der Droessel nee von Drandorff was that; after the presentation of the pertinent documents, (according to the "concept" note found in the Fief Chancellery, the original was destroyed during the last war,) his father received the Letter of Fief for Colochau in 1612. And regarding the "gesamte Hand" for the other half of Colochau which belonged to the late George von der Droessel and other Fief properties, the enclosed original document, dated Mar. 12, 1612, shows that his father "Guenther" received the "gesamte Hand" (for those properties.) This Letter of Fief also shows that his father had the "gesamte Hand" for fief estate which belonged to his cousin "Cunz Erdman von der Droessel" in the Schlieben district. Since from the age of 9 in was in the service of the dowager Princess of Anhalt at Cosswigk, he was not able to take care of the expired "indult" extensions. After that he was in the service of the Counts of Oldenburg, and from that time till now, with the permission of his "Obristwachtmeisters" v.d. Marwitz he is serving in the Electral Brandenburg Army with the Borxdorff Regiment in Ross.   He is now 24 years old and begs to be forgiven for not being able to attend to the fief obligations, particularly since his guardian did not attend to his affairs, for the granting of the Letter of Fief for his father's Fief, and the 1/2 section of his cousin's Colochau Fief and also for the "gesamte Hand" for the "George Caspar" Fief, a5.2.     >

1650: Jan. 17, Chancellery, Dresden, Saxony, "Guenther von der Droessel" is granted a Letter of Fief by the Johann Georg Prince Elector of Saxony that states; "Guenther is invested in fief with 1/2 of the Colochau village, excluding the 24 Scheff. of oats, which are given yearly to the Judge by Paul and Martin and from the 60 ha. which his grandfather purchased from the 3 peasants, Adam Zeisigh, Wolf Berndt and Blasius Moller on Aug. 23, 1591 and for which he received a Fief with "Gericht ueber Hals und Hand" but which went to his brother "Cuntz Erdman" after the (estate was) distributed beween the brothers; and from the village Malitzschkendorf he is to receive 2 alte Schock in cash, 3 (Viertel) corn and 3 (Viertel) oats and grain and (vierthalb (?) as did his grandfather "Caspar". Associate participants in the Fief were; "Georg Friedrich" and "Caspar Erdman" of Colochau and Schlieben; "George Caspars" minor sons; "Bernhard Friedrich" of Gross Roesen; "George Ernst" of Klein Roessin; "Heinrich Wilhelm" of Klein Roesen; and "Hans Friedrich of Neudoebern, a5.2.

1650: Feb. 17, "Guenther" petitions for the Colochau Fief to be put in his name because he thought his cousins "Georg Ernst" and Wilhelm Henrich" were dead, see XII.11, 1651, May 29.

1650: May 15, Schlieben, Saxony, Jacob Frizsche writes to the Prince Elector; that he has sent to "Guenther von der Droessel" a draft of the Fief Letter and asked if he remembered anything that should be added. He returned the draft, he did not remember anything new but hoped that it was like his father's Fief Letter which no longe existed. He listed the Fief participants on a separate paper which is attached; "Guenther v. der Droessel" (Erbsass) of Colochau; "Bernhard's" minor sons, "George Friedrich" of Colochau and Schlieben and "Caspar Erdman" of Colochau and Schlieben; "Bernhard Friedrich" of Gross Rohssen and the (Erbsass) of Dransdorf, Nieder Lausnitz; "George Ernst" of Klein Rossen; "Henrich Wilelm" of Klein Rossen; "Hans Friedrich of Neuen Doebern has left an heir but his name was not known or whether or not he was still living but he should be mentioned in the Fief Letter, a5.11.

1658: Apr. 26, Colochau, Saxony, "Guether v.d.D." in a letter to the Elector requests the fief to 1/2 of the Colochau estate which belonged to his late father and to his portion of his cousin's other half (of Colochau) which (his cousin) left behind.   (get translation for the rest), a5.3.

1670: Mar. 28, Dransdorff, Nieder Lausitz, Saxony, "Clara Katarina" v.d.Droessel nee von Drandorff writes the Prince Elector that she, her brothers the Cornet Christopher Adolph and Hans Melchior von Drandorff and her sister Anna Sophie von Weltewitz nee von Drandorff wish to fore close "Guenther v.d.Droessel's 1/2 of Colochau Fief and estate because of non-payment of debt under the "sub hasta" provision. But they petition for a 2 year "Idult" in order to decide among themselves what to do about the matter, a5.2, Seite 126.

1672: Apr. 18, Schlieben, Saxony, The Amtsschoesser of Schlieben, Conrad Zschoch confirms to the Prince Elector; that Christopher Adolph v. Drandorff, Cornet of the Prince Elector's "Leibregiment" in Ross, and the Junker "Guenther v. der Droessel," both of Colochau, appeared at the Schlieben Amt on Apr. 10, 1672, and in according with the Prince Elector's Order of Nov. 26, 1671, and "Guenther v.d.Droessel" released the Colochau Fief and estate to Drandorff and his siblings who by legal judgment, under the "sub hasta " provision, obtained ownership of the property on Apr. 1, 1669, a5.2, Seite 130.

CHILDREN of DAM THE ELDER, XV.16

Note: “Since the brothers Nickel, Dam jun. and the brother Bernhard owned Klein Roessen and ¾ of Gross Roessen as well as Dam sen., they must be the sons of him according to the documents.” E.v.S.

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1622: Nickel and his brother Dam sold ¾ of Gross Roessen and Klein Roessen.

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1612: Dam and his cousins Bernhardt and Hans Christoff are designated co-heirs by Duke Johann George of Saxony of Cuns Erdmann von der Drössel, who was their uncle in 1612.

1616: 4. p. Trin. The maiden Anna, the daughter of Thams v.d. Drossel of Klein and Gröss Roessin, was married in Meissen to Moriz Kölbing.

1622: Sold his portion of Klein and Gross Roessin, ?

1636: Dec. 10, "Tham formerly of Klein Roessin, died in almost the greatest poverty." see X.3, 1636, Dec.10

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Daughter of Georg Ernst von Adelsdorf and Agnes von Metsch of Plohn, The von Oelsnitz and the von Metsch families are ancient noble Lutheran German families from Saxony.

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1647:  Aug. 16, "Bernhard" is mentioned as being dead; see XII.15, 1647, Aug. 16.

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CHILDREN of ADAM von der DRESSEL called ADUM von der DRUSEL XV.17

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1623:  "Adam von der Drusel's widow had minor sons in 1623", s?

Note: It is possible that they perished in the 30 year war which waged from 1618 to 1648 and brought great destruction to this part of Germany

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