XII.1 THAM (THOMAS) von der DRESSEL the younger called THAMMEN von der DRÖSSEL? or THYMEN von der DROSSELE

doc. 1469, 1470, 1472, 1481, 1474, 1478, 1492 x Margarethe nee ? alive in 1470, lord of Gross and Klein RoessiN




1469: October 8, "Thammen von de Dressel" was sold by Heinrich von Kokeritz 3 "Schock Geldes" and 2 "Malter Korn" in the village of Freienwalde in the district of Schweinitz for 150 Rheinische Florien with the right of redemption in 3 years, a4.10.

1470: Feb. 3 or 7, Sunday after the feast of Mary's purification, "Thymen von der Drossele," Margarethe, his wife, will receive yearly, as a widow's annuity 19 Schock Groschen interest in money, oats and chickens from Gross and Klein Rossin as well as ????? the farm and estate of Klein Roessin, with all rights ?  The heirs of Thyme von der Droessel have the right to redeem the farm and estate for 150 Rheinissche Florins, witnesses were "Gunther von der Dressel," Hans and Baltazar Arras, a4.11

1472: Jan. 28, "Thame von der Drossel" and Heinrich Loser were witnesses for signing og Barbara's widow annuitym she was the wife of Cunz von lamperswalde, a4.12.

1474: "Thammo v.d. Droessel" of Klein Rossin (Klein Roessen) has 1 estate consisting of 3 hufen (45 ha.) with 3 "huefnern" and 7 "Gaertnern," m3.2.

1474: "Tham von der Drossle" has an estate with 3 free Hufen (=45 ha.) in Klein Roessen and the village of Klein Roessen from which he receives 1 Schock 31 Groschen 3 Pfennig in cash, 15 malter oats, 300 hens and 1 Schock eggs, (=80 eggs.)  3 Huefner, 7 Kossaeten in Klein Roessen.  ? From 1/2 of the village Gross Roessen with 8 Huefner and 3 1/2 Kossaeten from which he receives 5 Schock 37 Groschen in cash, 30 Malter rye, 30 Malter hafer and 16 hens, a1.2.

1478: June 26, see XII.2, 1478, June 26, below

1484: Jan 15, see XII.2, 1484, Jan. 1, below

1486: May 24, see XII.2, 1486, May 24, below

1487: Dec. 3, see XII.3, 1487, Dec. 3, below

1490: Dec. 4, see XII.4, 1490, Dec. 4, below

1492: Jan. 7, Sunday after Trium regum, Torgau, Saxony, "Thammem von der Drossel" was appointed to be the guardian of his minor nephews Gunthern and Contzen and Thammen and his nephews were invested in fief, by the Kurfurst Friedrich of Saxony, with (get transalation,) a4.12.

1520: May 1, see XIII.3, 1520, May 1




called von der DROSSEL or von der DROSSLE

doc. 1470, 1474, 1478, 1484, 1486, 1487, 1490, 1520, married, Dorothea von Schaff, alive 1484, co lord of Gross and Klein Roessin



1470: Feb. 3 or 7, see VII.1

1474: "Gunther von der Drossel" belongs to the Schlieben Amt??? reports: 50 occupied>>> under which 6 have no fileds or acreage, m3.1. (get translated)

1474: "Gunther von der Drossel" has one village in the Sclieben district and also some peasants in the Liebenwerda district, namely 10 peasants who work on 180 hectares, 6 peasants who only have on garden, and 1 desert garden?  From this he earns 9 Schock  54 Groschen cash, 2 1/2 Malter rye.......and 7 hens.  Since Gunther has his property in two districts, he requested from the Kurfuerst that, in time of war or feud that he be obligated only to serve from the Schlieben district where has his residence, and not from the Liebenwerda district.  Gunther was expected to provide 1 armed man, 2 horses for war carriages, and 3 "Trabanten" runners ? a1.3.

1478: June 26, Fiday after the feast of St. John the baptist, Wittenberg, Saxony, "Gunther von de Drossle"  and his heirs were invested in fief by the Duke of Ernst of Saxony in the district of Schweinitz with 4 malter corn, 4 malter oats, 4 chickens which is to be given annually, and with Fleischzehnten from 4 peasants from the village Dubro, which was sold to him by his cousin "Hans von der Drossle."  (Gunther's) brother "Thamm" and his cousins "Hans" and "Nickel" were also invested at the same time.  In the event that "Gunther" should die without heirs, his brother "Thamm" should inherit, and if he (Thamm) dies without heirs, his cousins "Hans" and "Nickel" should inherit, a4.10 (if his fief was sold to him by his cousin Hans, then why is Hans included in the fief?)

1484: Jan. 12, Monday, Feast of St. Erhart, Lochau (Colochau,) Saxony, "Gunthern von der Drosell" was invested in fief by Duke Ernst of Saxony, with 4 Malter of corn from the district Schweinitz and the "bede" from his ??? in Dubrow, 2 smoked chickens, and the "Fleisschzehnten" which was sold to him by Gotz von Wolfferstorff, Amtmann in Schlieben.  Invested at the same time were his brother "Tham" and his cousins "Hans" and "Nickel" von der Drosell, witnesses, among others, were count Sigmund zu Gleichen, Jorge Schenk Lord zu Tautenberg, a4.10.



1484: Jan. 12, Monday, after St. Erhardt, "Gunther con der Drossel's" wife, Dorothea is granted a widow's annuity by Duke Ernst of Saxony of 60 neue Schock, 7 malter hafer, 1/2 schock chickens? from the village of Lochaw (Colochau) by Herzberg, and 4 malter corn from Dubro.  Witnesses were "Nickel von der Drossell" and Nickel von Kokeritzch, a4.10.

1486: May 24, Wednesday, vigil of Corpus Christi, Torgau, Saxony, "Gunther" is invested in fief, and at the time so are "Thame and his cousin "Nickel" by Duke Ernest of Saxony, with 1 Schock Geldes as a yearly interest from the 3 farms in Schlieben which were sold to him (Gunther) by Gotz von Wolffersdorf, who is now the Amtmann in Schlieben.  At his (Gunther) death without heirs, the Schock will go to "Thammen" and "Nickel" his cousins, a4.10

1487: Dec. 3, see VII.3, 1487, Dec. 3, below

1490: Dec. 4, see VII.4, 1490, Dec. 4, below

1520: May 1, see VIII.1, 1520, May 1, below

probably sons of Hans XI.3




doc. 1474. 1477, 1478, 1481, 84, 86died before 1499, married Barbara Nee ? , alive in 1507, lord of  1/2 Colochau



1474: "Nickel von der Dressel unde Hans sein bruder" have the farm in Kollochow, where they have 3 free Hufen (=45 ha) and 1/2 of the village Kollochow with 10 Hufen (=150 ha,) from which they receive 10 Schock (=60 Groschen) and 25 Groschen in cash, 144 Malter oats, 35 hens and 1 Schock 33 eggs (=93 eggs.)  From 1/2 of the village Gross Roessen with 13 Huefner (peasants) and 1 1/2 Kossaeten (peasants) who have only a garden,) they receive 5 schock 25 Groschen in cash money, 8 hens and Schock 6 eggs (=66 eggs.)  From the village Hohenbucko (Bucko), which belongs to the Kurfurst, they receive 18 Groschen, 54 Malter rye and 16 malter oats.  From the village Dubro, which belongs to the Kurfurst, they receive 48 malter rye and 48 malter oats, a1.2.

1477: June 18, Wednesday after St. Veit, Schweinitz, Saxony, "Nickel von der Drossel" and Jorge Pickler are witnesses for the widows annuity of Agnes, the wife of Clauss von Tenstedt, a 4.10.

1478: June 26, see VII.3, 1478, June 26

1481: Dec. 26, Tuesday after Thome, Herzberg, Saxony, "Nickel von der Drossel," his wife, Barbara, was granted by Duke Ernst of Saxony, a widow's annuity of 1/2 of the village Lochaw (Colochau) with servants, all rights, all property and 1 free farm with three free "hufen" and 2 free fields, one called the Holy Field, the other called Walmans field ???, a4.10.

1484: Jan. 12, see VII.3, 1484, Jan. 12

1486: May 24, see VII.2, 1486, May 24

1490: Dec. 4, Sunday, St. Barbara's feast, Torgau, Saxony, "Nickeln," "Thammen," "Gunthern" und "Conraden" cousins and brothers von der Drossel, were invested in fief, by Kurfurst Friedrich of Saxony, with ???, a14.12.

1499: Aug. 25, Sunday after St. Bartholomei, Torgau, Saxony, "Barbara von der Drossel widow" (of Nickel) requests the appointment of a new guardian because er guardian died.  Gotz von Wolffirsdof, Amtmann in Schlieben, and Ditterich Grunrode zu Korn were appointed her new guardians, a4.12.

1507: May 2, "Barbara Drosselern Witwe," Kurfurst Friedrick of Saxony confirms that Matthes Loser and Georg Hondorf are Barbara's new guardians, a4.13.

Probable sons of Hans VI.3



XII.4 JOHANN von der DRESSEL called HANS von der DROSELE

doc. 1454, 1468, 1474, 1478, lord of ?



1454: Konitz (Chojnic, Pomorze) Poland, "Hans von der Drosele," fought in the battle of Konitz as a noble mercenary for the order of Teutonic knights which defeated the Polish army in this battle.  He served under Reusse von Plauen, the younger, who was a mercenary leader and member of a family prominent in the history of the order, p16.

1468: Nov. "Hans von der Drosele" is listed as having had the following losses during the battle of Konitz, one white horse worth 38 ff, one bay horse worth 30 gulden, one white horse worth 22 ff and one crossbow worth 2 gulden.

Comment: This means that Hans was accompanied by at least two servants, one of which had a crossbow in the battle which he lost.  This battle is in the archive.

1474: see VII.4, 1474, below

1478: June 26, see VII.3, 1478, June 28, above

1484: Jan. 12, see VII.3, 1484, Jan. 12, above

1487: Dec. 3, Monday after St Andreas the Holy Zwelffpoten" Wittenberg, Saxony, the von der Drossel Collective letter of fief investiture. "Hansen" and his brother "Nickeln," "Gunthern" and "Thoman" also brothers, are invested in fief, by Kurfurst Friedrich of Saxony, with estates in the Schlieben district, namely Lochau (Colochau) Gross and Klein Rossin with the rights over " Hals und Hand cp.," in the village Buckaw  ??? get translation for the rest.




doc. 1490 - 1492





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