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THURINGIA
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ANDDREAS |
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doc. 1381 - 1404
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Brother in law of Conrad von Heringen
therefore married to ? von Heringen
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GRUPING |
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doc. 1381, 1401
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| VIII.6 |
WERNHER |
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doc. 1407 - circa 1433 Co-lord of Dietlas
Castle
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WETZEL |
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doc. 1407 - 1416, Co-lord of Dietlas
Castle
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SAXONY
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| VIII.8 |
KNIGHT GUNTHER von der DRESSEL called
GUNTER von DROSULE OR GUENTHER von DROSELEN
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doc. 1349, 1361, 1365, 1370, 1375, 1379,
1381. Lord of Dreisel before 1349/50, lord in
Schlieben 13?, lord of Colochau, Gross and Klein Roessin
1372. Knight and courtier in the court of the
duke Anhalt, 1341 - 1361. Knight and courtier
in the court of the dukes of Saxony, 1361 - 1381
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1349: April 6, Spandau, Brandenburg, "her Gunter van Drosule"
-- "Lord Gunther Dressel called von der Droessel", witnessed
that the citizens of Old and New Brandenburg, and 36 cities
of the Mark Brandenburg, by command of the Margrave Waldemar
of Brandenburg, pledge themselves to recognize the right of
eventual successions of the Princes Albrecht II and Waldemar
I of Anhalt, to the Mark Brandenburg, and to be the ruling Lords,
p1.9, p5. 1349: April 6, Spandau, ?, "her Guenther von Droselen"
-- "Lord Gunther Dressel called von der Droessel", witnessed
a document in which the Princes Albrecht II and Waldemar I of
Anhalt grant a protection letter to the cities of the Mark Brandenburg,
p1.9, p5. 1349/50: Johannes Kalp von Dueben is listed as the
possessor of the village Drosule, p6.2 therefore: as of
this date, Conrad Droessel could no longer be Lord in Drosule
1353: "Guenther, Ritter," -- "Gunther (von der Droessel), Knight,"
is mentioned as being documented in this year, p7.1 1353: May
16, "Guntherus de Drosule," is mentioned as being documented
on this date, a1.1. 1361: February 6, Molberg (Muehlberg), ?
"Guenther (de Drosule), Ritter", is mentioned as being the Saxon
Ducal Commissar for the Muehlberg Conference, p7.1
1361: February 6, Molberg (Muehlberg), "Guntheri de Drosul",
sl to the proclamation from Duke Rudolf of Saxony, his brother,
and his nephew that there should be a conference at Molberg
to settle the diffeneces between the Archbishop of Magdeburg,
the former Bishop of Merseburg, and ? (get better translation
from von Sttuterheim), p8.1.
Link:
See this document
COMMENT:
The original German document with its 14 seals which includes
the oldest known Dressel seal still exists intact and is to
be found in the Dresden National Archiv, Nr. O.U. 3623, p9.1,
ex?. 1361: December, 20, Dobrilugh (Doberlug), Saxony, "her
Gunther von der Dresul rittere", witnessed a document in which
the Dukes Rudolph II and Wenzel of Saxony, for the sum of 110
"Schock breiter Groschen" absolve the monastery of Dobrilugh
yearly payment of "24 Schock schmaler or 16 Schock breiter Groschen",
until further notice, p9.1.
COMMENT
Today "Dobrilugh" is called Kirchkain, it is a small city
25 km. south east of Colochau. Until the Reformation the Monastery
was an important Cictercian center for German culture and learning
in this Slavic land. The monastery owed much land and played
a significant role in local history. In 1370 it possessed 40
villages. It was originally established in 1165 as the center
for the colonization of the Lausitz mark. (the location is first
mentioned in 1005) After, the Reformation it came into the possession
of the Saxon Ducal family. The monastery church has been preserved,
but the monastery itself is now a military barrack. 1365: February
19, Molberg (Muelberg), ? "her gunther von der drosule", witnessed
a document in which Botho von Ileburg Lord of Calau, acknowledges
that he oues his sister Jutta, a nun in the convent of Molberg,
the sum of 50 "Schock berite Groschen" in accordance to the
will of their dead father. And that Jutta's money will be paid
in her name to the Abtess Kunigunde of Molberg and and the "Probst"
Hermann on Michael's day, p10.1
COMMENT
Here Gunther is a vassal of Lord Botho von Ileburg. 1370:
March 21, Wittenberg, ?, "Junther von Drosul" witnessed that
the Dukes Rudoph II, Wenzel of Saxony and their nephew Albrecht
exchanged the village of Boynicz for the village of Sornou with
the Abottt Heinrich and the convent of Dobirluge and that all
the rights of the village Sornau were tranfered to the monks
for the honor of God, Mary and all the saints, whose memory
is maintained in the monaster, and that by so doing the Dukes
hope to participate in all the good works that happen in that
house of God, p9.2. 1371: January 6, Wittenberg, ?, "Ghuenter
van der Dresul", witnessed a document in which ? (ask von Stutterhein
for translation), p11.1. 1371: May 1, Gunther von der Drossel,
Knight, is mentioned, a1.1. 1375: January 22, ?, "Gunther von
der Droeseule", witnessed with Thimo, Lord of Koldicz, chamberlain
of the Emperor, and the Captain of Breslau, and Hinrich von
Wulczkewicz that they had arranged an agreement between the
Abbot Hinrich of Dobirlaw and his monastery and Sophie, widow
of Ditherichs von Czikaw, and her brother Hinrich von Czerticz
regarding the Frankendorf estate p9.3, p13. 1376: "Gunther von
der Drosel", witnessed with Cunen Rocken, Magnus Rocken, Hansen
von Czbellicz, Richard von Gluch and Jennich Schaff that the
Duke Wenzel of Saxony sold the two villages, Dubrow (Dubro)
and Grassow (Grassau) for 85 Schock with the right of redemption
to Gabriel and Benedictus von Promnicz, a4.2. 1377: July 8,
"Gunther von der Drosel", is allowed by the Duke Wenzel of Saxony
to take yearly 6 Schillings interest from the estate Sehusen
(Seehausen is located north of Muehlberg) which he purchased
from Koppen von Prittin and give this interest to the convent
of Molberg (Muehllberg) as an annuity for his daughters the
Rev. Sisters Metzen and Mechtilden and for the daughter of Hans
von Buckenstorphs, the Rev. Sister Alheiden, a4.3. 1377: September
17, "Gunther von der Dresul" guarrented with Cune von Cocstete,
Hans Loser, and Hennig van Sygeser that all profit above 40
Marks from the tariffs charged at Wittenberg on the Elbe, and
the landing with the ferry will be given to the Duke Wenzel
of Saxony, after the Duke signs over the profits from the tariffs
at Wittenberg on the Elbe and the landing with the ferry to
Rudolf Fewerstein, Cune Wyman, Tile Phapendorph, and Hansse
von Aken, citizens of Wittenberg, a4.5. 1377: October 24, 25,
Tangermunde, ?, "her Gunther von der drosel", witnessed a document
in which ? (ask von Stutterheim for translation), p11.2. 1377:
October 25, Tagermunde, ?, "her Gunther von der Drosel", witnessed
a document in which ? ask von Stutterheim, p11.3 1378: April
25, Wittemberg, Saxony, "Hern Gunthere von der Drosule", witnessed
a document in which ? ,p1.10. 1379: (1381): "Gunther von der
Drosel", took as pawn from the Duke Wenzel of Saxony, for 819
Schock 27 Groschen the house (castle) Sliwen (Schlieben) with
the exception of its personnel and the church fief and with
the right of eventual redemption by the Duke, a4.6. Comment:
see Conrad IV.1. (1379) if from this document it is to be believed
that Conrad is dead, then he could not of been alive in (1381)
Link:
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| VIII.9 |
REV. HENRY von der
DRESSEL called HEIDINRICH von der DROESUELE OR
HEYENRICH YREM (VETTER) von der DROSSEL |
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doc. 1380, 1385, Roman Catholic
Priest
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CHRONOLOGY:
1380: February 19, Werenzhain, ?, "Heidinrich fon der Droesuele",
witnessed a document in which Kunz von Rodstock and Henschel
von Reichheim stated hat the they had reached an agreement with
the Abbot of the Dobrilugk monastery, Dietrich von Kotttwitz,
and the Propst of Schlieben, Hans von Rodstock, regarding the
Widemgut ? (Wide estate) in the village of Priessen, p9.4.
1385: February, 12, (?) " Heyenrich yrem --- (vetter)
von der Drossel", and the brothers Hanse and Tyteriche
von Slawticz, and Wenczel von der Lochow are oued 60 Schock
breiter boehmischer Groschen ???? (get the rest translated),
p9.5 comment: Henry is the only documented priest the Dressel
family has ever produced.
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SILESIA
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NICHOLAS von der DRESSEL
called NICZCO DROSSIL or NITSCHE DROSSEL |
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doc. lord or co-lord of a Dressel estate
near Liegnitz, Silesia
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CHRONOLOGY:
1365: Nov.4, Liegnitz, Silesi, "Niczco Drossil" witnessed
with others, that the Duchess Anna of Liegnitz verified that
Hanko son of the hereditary bailiff of Liegnitz, Franczko, sold
and to the Abbotess of the Benediktine Convent of Liegnitz two farms
from the Ruestern estate, p13.1. 1373: September 28, Liegnitz,
Silesia, "Nitsche Drossel", witnessed with other vassals, that
the Duke Ruprecht with his brother, and in agreement with the
Duke Ludwig, granted to Margarethe, wife of the younger Georg
Brokkotendorf, that after her husband's death, the right of
possession to half of the village Prinkendorf, with all rights
and property, except for the "obersten Gerichte and ordinary
Dienste" ???, p13.2.
1373: September 28, Liegnitz, Silesia,
Nicsche Drossel", witnessed that the Duke Ruprecht confirmed
for himself and as the guardian for his three brothers, also
with the knowledge of his cousin the Duke Ludwig, Lord of Brieg,
a letter of ? from house wife Kethe Doring to Georg Brockotendorf,
the younger, concerning half of the village of Prinkendorf with
all its property, ?, p13.3.
1374: March 1, Liegnitz, "Nicoloa Drossel,
Heneschlino Drossel" (and other vassals) witnessed that the
Duke Ruprecht confirmed for himself and as guardian for his
brother that Katharina, widow of Albert Brotspysers, bequeaaed
to the Monastery of the Holy Cross in Liegnitz, the yearly interest
from the garden in the village of Risschontern (Ruestern), which
is to be paid on the feast of St. Michael, p13.4.
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HENRY von der DRESSEL called HENCZIL
von DROSSIL |
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doc. 1367, 1374, lord or co-lord
of a Dressel estate near Liegnitz, Saxony
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CHRONOLOGY:
1367: Nov. 25, Liegnitz , Silesia , "Henczil von Drossil",
witnessed with other vassals, that the Duke Ruprecht of Liegnitz
confirmed that Pecze Kolbil with his wife, his sister Kataherina
and their mother Kunigunde, sold their estate Prinkendore, in
the Liegnitz area, to Junghans von Bunzlau and conveyed to him
all interests and rights, p13.5
1374: October 27, Liegnitz , Silesia , see
IV.5, Oct. 27, 1374 , above
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